SEATED (l-r): Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), Olympia Snowe (R-Me.) STANDING (l-r): Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Susan Collins (R-Me.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.) |
I just received an e-mail from the office of Sen.
Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), featuring a
photo (right) of the
sixteen women members of the U.S. Senate -- a record.
The senators
appeared en masse on ABC's Good Morning America today in an interview with Diane Sawyer. The graphic: "
The Women of the Senate: Next stop, the White House?" Transcript of the online excerpt follows -- obviously edited portions are designated by "jump cut" (full interview requires subscription, and I'm not giving ABC/Disney any money,
needless to say).
To begin, it figures that Sawyer would open the interview by asking about the presidential candidacy of ...
Barack Obama?!?
SAWYER: First thing, Senator Barack Obama. February the 10th, it's going to be "go" or "no go." [Camera on Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.)] First reactions?
SEN. MARIA CANTWELL (D-Wash.): Well, he's a talented individual. We're so glad to have him in our caucus, and he's a voice, I think, that is bringing a lot of fresh ideas. We obviously are going to have some very talented people, including the person that's right next to me [Sen. Clinton]. We're so glad, because, you know, when we have a woman who might be in the White House, who could ascend to really bringing female leadership to a whole new level, that's exciting. And Barack is carrying a torch as well, for breaking the glass ceiling.
It's a long way, uh, till the first primary, but, um, I think we're very proud -- we're certainly very proud of what Senator Clinton has done and achieved in the United States Senate.
SAWYER: Senator Clinton, you're nodding ... anything else you want to say about Senator Obama?
SEN. CLINTON: I -- I would -- I would agree with what Maria said. [Laughter]
SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D-Minn.): Consensus-building! It's consensus-building!
SAWYER: Do you believe that if there were more women presidents in the world, there would be less war? How sure of you [sic] that there would be less war? Do you think actually the world would be --
SEN. CANTWELL: Well, I think, Diane, I think that women are agents of change. And while we're only 16% of the United States Senate, we are trying to make change. So it doesn't mean that you're going to predict the outcome, but it does mean you will hear about collaboration, you will hear about cooperation, and you will hear about a format that I think brings people together. I think that's --
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): Let me say this: I'm not certain that we would have less wars [sic], but I am certain that there would be more collaboration [jump cut] so while we can't prevent war, we can maybe extend the peace longer, maybe we can bring it more readily. We don't ever claim that we could empower[?], end war, but I do think that women bring a different perspective on just how much is enough when it comes to bloodshed and expenditure of funds for weapons.
SEN. CLINTON: You know, Diane, I just got back from Iraq and Afghanistan, and both places, in addition to meeting with, um, our military leaders and, uh, the governmental officials from both countries, I met with groups of women, and women who are now in positions of responsibility in both governments [jump cut] just begged for help from American women, particularly those of us in government, to give them some resources and support. [jump cut]
So I don't think that you can, uh, foresee or foreordain any particular outcome, but I do think what we're all saying is that there is, at least in our experience, more of an openness to process, to bring people together to the table, that collaboration and collegiality. And that in and of itself can cause positive, uh, results -- not that, you know, it's going to end all wars or something as hopeful and aspirational as that.
So I -- I do think there are some differences we could build on.
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D-Calif.): I think women look at power differently, too. I think men have a very, uh, I was going to say sort of upscale view of power, that it's got to really emanate from the top. And most women have gotten wherever we've gotten because of hard work, doing your apprenticeship, earning your spurs, working your way up. Um, it's a very different thing. So you tend to be, uh, much more inclusive.
SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R-Me.): But I don't want to leave the impression that a woman president wouldn't do what is necessary to defend this country. If Elizabeth Dole had been successful and had been president, I'm sure that she would have reacted very strongly and effectively to the attacks on our country on 9/11.
SEN. McCASKILL: I want to point out, this is a tough, tough group of women. Don't cross these women! [Laughter] If you -- if you want to mess with America, if you want to do something that harms our country... I think that at the same time we talk about how we are good at finding common ground and we care very much about collegiality ... I don't want this interview to end with anyone being mistaken that, whether it be Hillary Clinton or we -- any of these women, if the time comes and any of us have [sic] to make a tough decision that has to do with -- with war or defending our country, every woman in this room is ready to do that, 'cause believe me, if she got here, she's tough.
Of course, it's impressive that we as a country are making such strides towards gender equality in Congress. But what just
kills me about this interview is the way Sawyer handled it ... how insulting to Sen. Clinton (whom I do
not support for president, truth be told), and really all of the women present, to open the session by asking about Obama. Then, to try to goad Sen. Clinton into commenting about Obama ... it might have been soft-pedalled a bit, but it basically is "gotcha" journalism with a feminine touch. Either way, it ain't pretty.
Now, it does make me wonder ... perhaps we
would have been better off with Elizabeth Dole as president instead of
Drunky McStagger. Hmmm ...
UPDATE (1:28 pm EST 1/18/07): Apologies for the photo caption running into the blockquote box. I don't know how to fix that without making it worse. Please forgive my HTML ignorance ...
UPDATE (11:01 pm EST 1/18/07): I see from my home PC that the caption only runs into the blockquote box if your browser (because of your monitor) has a narrower display. On my laptop, the caption bleeds into the box, but on this computer, it doesn't. Just didn't want you wondering why I saw things differently than you ... if I did.
Labels: Barack Obama, Elizabeth Dole, Hillary Clinton, Senate, women senators